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    The Shooters Party said yesterday it would block the green slip reforms in the upper house.

    It wants the government to maintain legal representation for accident victims and to make it less harsh on injured children, most of whom will now have medical expenses capped after five years.
    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1226665286665



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    I know how you bloks feel
    I just paid my rego and CTP this morning it is getting realy stupid up here
    CTP.....83.00
    Rego...102.15
    TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT FEE ...51.25 ( What shit is this )
    All up a whopping 236.40
    And then we do it all again in 12 months
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    copied fromhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/488378801234326/

    David Cooke
    Morning all. As you know we had our meeting last night with the MAA. It’s appropriate that you now receive an update of the results of your hard work so far.

    On behalf of motorcyclists, CJ Burns and Brian Wood attended on behalf of the MCC of NSW and I attended on behalf od the NSW Motorcycle Allaince. The usual members of the MAA Motorcycle Working Party were in attendace as well. Julie Newman also attended. She is the CEO of the Safety, Return To Work And Support Division, which means she sits on the Board of the MAA. She was impressive to deal with and listened very closely to our concerns.

    Overall, the meeting was well run, and we were treated with respect and professional courtesy. The meeting also ran considerably over time, as you can imagine.

    Firstly, let me inform you that we have confirmed this morning with the Shooters and Fishers Party that they intend to continue to hold the bill up over the winter recess to give everyone time to look at the bill a bit harder. This is a huge win for us, and exactly what we asked the Shooters and Fishers to do for us when we first met with them on this a couple of weeks ago. It is also a massive embarrassment for the government and Finance Minister Pearce. It also means that Treasurer Baird must now deliver the budget without having the CTP plans locked away.

    The main benefit in all of that is that now we have time to work with the Shooters and Fishers and the Government to hopefully ammend the things we do not like. There are some good things in this bill, but there are also things we are deeply concerned about. We now have an opportunity to work on those things.

    In terms of what was discussed last night with the MAA (the department that runs the CTP system), there was a lot of questions asked and a lot of answers given. Rather than give you “our version” of the answers we received, we have requested the MAA to provide us with written answers to a bunch of questions which we can then publish here for you. You all can then decide for yourself whether you are satisfied or not with those answers and let us know your thoughts. We hope to be able to publish that for you in the next day or so.

    On the headline matter of Greenslip premiums for motorcycles, you can all give yourselves an “interim” pat on the back.

    Since this started, we have said that our chances of totally stopping this bill were slim. We still feel that is probably the case in the long term. It is likely there may be some amendments around the treatment of children and legal representation and appeals processes, but we still feel the bill will pass eventually.

    On that basis, we always said that motorcycle premiums were in danger of massive increases under a switch to a no-fault scheme, and we offered proof as to why. Many people claimed we were making it up, and some of them have even come on this page. We said that the MAA would need to cross-subsidise motorcycle premiums (charge everyone else more and give the extra to us) if our premiums were to remain stable and affordable. Last night, the MAA confirmed that what we had been saying was absolutely correct, and that massive cross-subsidisation would be required if bike premiums were to remain stable.

    They have now committed to doing exactly that. They ran us through their plans and how they intend to set up a fund that will move money around inside the system to subsidise our premiums. And we are talking hundreds of dollars per bike.

    The result is that the relativities between car and bike premiums will remain as they are currently. So we shouldn’t see an increase, assuming they stick to their word.

    They have also said they are prepared to give us that undertaking in writing.

    This is a huge win for all of us, and is what we were hoping to achieve from the start.

    Now, to counter that, it is worth noting that the legislation itself does not refer specifically to how premiums are set. That is entirely a matter for the MAA. The MAA is prepared to give us undertakings that they will look after us, but we will need to always remain vigilant on this, because as we are about to see in Victoria with the TAC, they can change those relativities any time they like with the stroke of a pen. The only thing that stops them is knowing that we can be a formidable foe if they try.

    You can all take heart from this. Your work has been brutally effective, and we have what we want. Firstly, the bill is stalled. Secondly, if it does get up, our premiums will be subsidised and shouldn’t rise. So effectively, an estimated extra 1,000 injured riders per year will be able to access compensation, and it won’t cost us any extra. Obviously there’s still a long way to go on all this and much to still play out, but we are in front now.

    Well done.

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    THE government has withdrawn its controversial changes to green slip policy, following a public outcry on the slashing of benefits and lack of support from key crossbench MPs.
    Acting finance minister Andrew Constance will announce today that the CTP bill is off the agenda until August.The Shooters and Fishers Party and the Christian Democrats told the government yesterday that they would not back the bill, because of concerns it would mean accident victims receive minimal benefits.Both parties have also raised concerns over revelations in the Daily Telegraph about the close links between embattled Finance Minister Greg Pearce, and his factional backer Michael Photios – who acts as a lobbyist for major insurers.Mr Constance will open a period of consultation until August, including relevant stakeholders and members of the community.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Boof View Post
    I know how you bloks feel
    I just paid my rego and CTP this morning it is getting realy stupid up here
    CTP.....83.00
    Rego...102.15
    TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT FEE ...51.25 ( What shit is this )
    All up a whopping 236.40
    And then we do it all again in 12 months


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    ANDREW CONSTANCE MP
    Acting Minister for Finance and Services
    Acting Minister for the Illawarra
    Minister for Ageing
    Minister for Disability Services

    MEDIA RELEASE

    Wednesday 19 June 2013

    GOVERNMENT ACTS TO ADDRESS CTP CONCERNS
    Acting Minister for Finance and Services Andrew Constance has today announced that during the winter recess of Parliament, the NSW Government will hold a CTP roundtable with relevant stakeholders and community representatives to consult further on the Motor Accident Injuries Amendment Bill 2013.
    The NSW Government does not have the numbers in the Legislative Council to proceed with the legislation and believes more work is necessary to discuss the reform with the community.
    It is now expected the Legislative Council will debate the bill in late August.
    “An enormous amount of work has been done over the past 12 months to review the current CTP scheme, however I am conscious that people do not have the full information before them and I want to take action to address this where possible,” Mr Constance said.
    “The NSW Government has listened to community concerns and is keen to adopt a process to further consult with stakeholders.
    “We will take the next six weeks to communicate and further consult on stakeholder issues and at the same time work with cross bench MPs.
    “We will facilitate further discussion by holding a CTP roundtable involving relevant players including accident victims, insurers, lawyers, community and business leaders.
    “The bill will be further consulted on as part of this process and a position paper will be released prior to the roundtable.
    “The NSW Government remains committed to introducing a CTP scheme that is more affordable for motorists and fairer for people injured in accidents.
    “The current CTP scheme puts enormous strain on injured people and we’re determined to bring certainty to motor accident victims, many of whom face years awaiting settlement.
    “Our reforms are designed to shorten the time for payments to be made and remove points of friction and dispute.
    “The NSW Government is committed to placing downward pressure on greenslip prices given that our state has the highest premiums in the country. Our reforms are designed to achieve that goal.
    “Many in the community are paying more than $500 a year for their greenslip, yet in other states they can pay up to hundreds of dollars less.
    “Yesterday, having met with the leadership of the motorcycle community, it was clear that they wanted more time to assess the bill and what it means for NSW motorcyclists. They indicated that other community groups were also keen for more time to assess the bill.
    “I would note that there will be no increase in the average cost of motorcycle premiums as a result of the proposed reforms, and there has been an overall reduction in the average price of CTP insurance for motorcycles of 13 per cent over the last two years, depending on the bike’s location and insurer,” Mr Constance said.
    The forum, to be held in mid-July, will also involve actuarial expertise and representatives of the Motor Accident Authority.
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    NSW government scraps green slip changes after lack of support from MPs

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/nsw-government-scraps-green-slip-changes-after-lack-of-support-from-mps/story-fni0cx12-1226666086060

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    Some information from the Round Table Review of CTP NSW. Currently being undertaken

    Here is some interesting insight into the current CTP Greenslip system that the NSW government wishes to change.

    The Victorian Scheme deficit was hotly denied by Janet Dore of the TAC at the roundtable and it is a debatable point indeed.

    The comments below are from the Bar Association and are not the work of the MCC of NSW.

    One thing it does highlight is the fact that the claimed benefits of the new scheme are already available but they are not being implemented by the MAA
    CTP SCHEME PERFORMANCE - THE REALITY



    The CTP issues paper repeatedly points out that NSW CTP premiums are more expensive than other states.

    It is also claimed that the scheme is less efficient. It is claimed that the NSW scheme is slow to deliver benefits. What is missing is a fair presentation of the evidence and a proper analysis as to why NSW is different.



    Premiums



    NSW CTP premiums are more expensive than Victoria and Queensland. There are a number of reasons why. They include:



    1. NSW offers significantly better benefits than are available to accident victims in Victoria and Queensland; and



    2. The NSW Government allowed a $50 increase in premiums earlier this year which other States did not permit



    Queensland It is important to note that they do not have a Lifetime Care and Support (LTCS) scheme.

    In NSW we look after those catastrophically injured in motor accidents irrespective of fault.

    In Queensland they do not.

    If the Federal Government continues to push through the NDIS and NIS then ultimately Queensland premiums will go up significantly to cover the cost of catastrophic injury for at fault drivers.

    This will add over $100 to premiums.



    Further, in Queensland the Government has rejected repeated requests by insurers to significantly lift premiums.

    The Government is mandating lower premiums in a way which the NSW Government has not been prepared to do.

    Take these factors into account and the Queensland premium would be similar to NSW.



    Victoria has a Government-run no fault scheme. Last year it ran a $1 billion deficit.

    If the Victorian Scheme operated so that there could never be the risk of a deficit (i.e. as applies with private underwriting) and

    if Victorian motorists had to pay a premium that delivered a 10% profit to private CTP insurers then their premium would be similar to if not greater than NSW.



    In short, comparing apples with apples the schemes are similarly priced compared to the benefits on offer and once Government underwriting is removed.



    Efficiency



    The Issues Paper claims that the NSW scheme is far less efficient than those in Victoria and Queensland.

    The truth is that the schemes have similar efficiency levels.



    The Issues Paper repeatedly says that only 50c of the premium dollar collected ends up in the hands of the claimant.

    It fails to say that another 10% goes to paying medical bills and the like for the benefit of the claimant.

    Further, the NSW efficiency rate is calculated by stripping out lifetime care payments – treatment expenses paid to the most seriously injured.

    The efficiency rates for Queensland and Victoria include these payments.

    Given their relative size (damages awarded) compared to administrative and legal fees these are amongst the most efficient claims.

    In effect the NSW efficiency rate is being artificially downgraded by removing a category of claims that are amongst the most efficiently processed.



    Once treatment expenses and lifetime care claims are added back in the NSW efficiency rate is comparable to other states.



    Benefit Delivery



    One of the claimed advantages of the proposed statutory benefits scheme is speed of payment - earlier payment for treatment and payment of weekly benefits.

    These are already features of the NSW scheme.



    At present everyone can access up to $5,000 in payment for treatment expenses and lost wages.

    Innocent accident victims are entitled to an early admission of liability after which treatment expenses keep on getting paid.

    There is even provision for periodic payments to cover wage loss by way of advance on damages.



    The problem with the current system is that insurers routinely delay making payments.

    That isn’t going to change and with the reform proposal the situation will get worse because:



    · No lawyers will be available to assist claimants in fighting for their rights to treatment and lost wages;



    · Of the requirement that each and every dollar spent on treatment be pre-approved by the insurance company.



    Rather than stripping lawyers out of the system and leaving vulnerable claimants to fend for themselves, the Motor Accidents Authority (MAA) should be focussing

    on making existing provisions within the current scheme work. The MAA has failed to ensure early admission of liability, avoid baseless allegations of contributory

    negligence and reasonable advance payments by insurers.



    Innocent accident victims are making significant sacrifices in order to obtain this existing “benefit” of early payment.

    The payments being made for lost wages are only 80% of pre-existing income from three months after an accident.

    Who can keep up their mortgage and maintain their family budget with a 20% drop in income whilst at the same time struggling to recover from significant injury?



    The current CTP scheme is comparatively priced, comparatively efficient and can deliver benefits effectively.


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    Quote Originally Posted by admin View Post

    The CTP issues paper repeatedly points out that NSW CTP premiums are more expensive than other states.

    <sbip>
    1. NSW offers significantly better benefits than are available to accident victims in Victoria and Queensland; and


    <snip>


    Victoria has a Government-run no fault scheme. Last year it ran a $1 billion deficit.

    If the Victorian Scheme operated so that there could never be the risk of a deficit (i.e. as applies with private underwriting) and

    if Victorian motorists had to pay a premium that delivered a 10% profit to private CTP insurers then their premium would be similar to if not greater than NSW.

    <snip>

    The current CTP scheme is comparatively priced, comparatively efficient and can deliver benefits effectively.
    UMMMM, hello

    Vics premiums are about 500 with rego.

    The $1b loss wasnt because the TAC itself ran at a loss but because it has huge amounts of cash invested and it lost out there...

    The TAC has been a cash cow for the vic govt for 20 years and has been an embarrassment at times for the govt in how much money it makes. FFS your insurance companies are ripping you off guys.

    I have been under the TAC for 20 years and although they have tightened up a bit recently, they are still arguably the best system in the world and for a govt run insurance scheme, they sure do look after you.
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    There was a little 'gathering' on Tuesday where a lot of motorcyclists took pity on Piss Head Pearce and took him some wine.

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